free ground shipping on orders over $50

the goop podcast

Normalizing the Need to Rest and Retreat

In partnership with our friends at Puma

Published on:

In Katherine May’s newest book, Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times, she explores how we relate to the painful periods in our lives—and what we can gain from normalizing the need to rest and tend to our wounds. In her conversation with host Elise Loehnen, May says that one reason many of us feel ashamed about our dark periods is because we’re taught to look down on other people’s misfortunes. This in turn makes it difficult to respect our own pain. May shares what changed for her when she allowed herself to see sadness as a need and not something to run from. For example, it helped her stop feeling addicted to productivity and busyness and begin to let go of the need to control everything. “We have got to stop feeling responsible for controlling our lives because that attempt is devastating us,” she says. “And it’s a lie—we just cannot do it.” Photo by Sarah Norling.

more from the goop podcast

Trae Stephens
podcast
read now

Trae Stephens

Gwyneth sits down with Trae Stephens, the co-founder of the AI defense company Anduril, for a wide ranging conversation about how Trae reconciles his Christian faith with an industry built around weapons and warfare.

Esther Perel
podcast
read now

Esther Perel

Gwyneth Paltrow sits down with famed psychotherapist and relationship expert Esther Perel to talk about the ways AI is affecting modern dating and relationships.

Kara Swisher
podcast
read now

Kara Swisher

Gwyneth sits down with longtime tech journalist Kara Swisher to talk about the past and present state of Silicon Valley.

Dr. Tara Narula
podcast
read now

Dr. Tara Narula

Many people don’t know this, but heart disease is the leading cause of death in women. In 2023, 1 in 5 women died from heart disease. Gwyneth sits down with Tara Narula, MD, a board certified cardiologist and CNN medical correspondent to talk about some of the lesser-known factors that can make women at-risk for heart disease – and the steps that we can take to protect our heart health.

Tig Notaro
podcast
read now

Tig Notaro

Gwyneth sits down with Tig Notaro—comedian, writer, actor, and producer—to talk about her Oscar-nominated documentary Come See Me in the Good Light, which follows poet Andrea Gibson through the final chapter of their life