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Passion, Intimacy—and Why a Little Hate Is Normal

Standing up to each other is just as critical to a relationship as compromising, says Boston-based therapist Terry Real. “You know you’re in a real relationship the day you look at this person and realize they’re exquisitely designed to stick the burning spear into your eyeball,” he says. While a partner uniquely positioned to take you on might sound like torture, Real says it’s a sign that your relationship definitely has a chance. The number one passion killer, he finds, is when partners stop taking each other on—when they might tell themselves that they’re compromising but in actuality they’re settling. “People generally do in the bedroom what they do in every other room,” he points out.

Because we can’t get enough of his poignant, no-BS advice, we sat down with Real in the podcast studio, and he talked about why normal marital hatred is more than okay. Then, in the video studio, he told us the single most important thing we all need to do in our relationships. And then we published his newest book: Us: Getting Past You & Me to Build a More Loving Relationship is a straight-talking (and heart-opening) guide to recognizing me-first tendencies—and reengaging with your relationship before the whole marriage bites the dust.

Terry Real has delivered a transformative book about relationships and intimacy. Here is Gwyneth’s quick summary: “Terry Real is a wise, honest, and charming guide. This book is a road map for all of us who seek true intimacy. It is full of relationship tools that can help you transform or deepen the way you connect with and understand your partner. Reading Us will also help you better understand yourself, your trauma and triggers, the patterns you tend to follow, and how you want to show up in the most important relationships in your life. Real’s approach teaches us how to step outside of the culture of individualism and embrace our interconnectedness. We can use it to heal a single relationship and to shift our collective culture.”

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    Terrence Real | Foreword By Bruce Springsteen Us: Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship Bookshop, $25

1. Why should intimate relationships be hard?

2. What’s the biggest passion killer?

3. How do struggling couples pull through together?

4. What’s one thing every couple should do more of?

Terry Real is a family therapist, speaker, and author. He founded the Relational Life Institute (RLI), which offers workshops for couples, individuals, and parents around the country, along with a professional training program for clinicians on his RLT (relational life therapy) methodology. His bestselling books include I Don’t Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression>, How Can I Get Through to You? Closing the Intimacy Gap Between Men and Women, and The New Rules of Marriage: What You Need to Make Love Work. Real has also served as a senior faculty member of the Family Institute of Cambridge in Massachusetts and is a retired clinical fellow of the Meadows Institute in Arizona.